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[Gazette] Timberroads – Details, Prototypes, References

Posted by Gerd on Friday, 21 May 2021 with 2 Comments

Hi folks,

I got some requests about references and details for timber roads. Therefore I made this gazette issue with the details I researched. I posted references to the websites where I got my info from and also hints to other books to this topic.

I came to this type of railroad during research of a prototype loco of my Toma Shay in Hon30. Actually, wooden rails were not new to me, but I never spend so many research before.

Anyway, while looking for 13 Ton Shays as my Toma Shay, I found the following photos.

Lima Shop# 172 – “Bishop Lumber Co.”

Lima Shop# 174 – “Jones, S. A. & Son”

Lima Shop# 191 – “Dixon Sawmill”

Lima Shop# 289 – “Leavitt & Leavitt #4”

Lima Shop# 628 – “Warnell Lumber & Veneer Co. #2”

These locos operated on wooden rails as can be seen on the photos or found in the description of Lima records. For use on wooden rails, such locos were equipped with extra wide tires and deep flanges, which are good visible on Shay #174.

Based on the loco above, I spend some more research at www.shaylocomotives.com and www. gearedsteam.com, resulting in the following list of Lima shop numbers. Judging by records or photographs, these locos operated on wooden rails.

#57, #89, #168, #172, #174, #191, #196, #254, #289, #290, #300, #403, #434, #433, #439, #469, #477, #516, #617, #628

Most of such locos were 13 ton classes. #57 might be the smallest with 7 tons while biggest loco weights 17 tons (#628). Gauge varies between 30″ and std.gauge (#191).
A special loco is #254, which is listed with 60″ gauge and seems to be build for operation on so pole-roads, which used full logs instead of sawn timber for rails. Usually, this was a territory for Climax locos and not for Shays.

But how about the tramroad timber rails? Here I found a good article about the D. H. Eastin & Company.

This railroad used tiny Shay #57 and operated for approx. 10 years. The link above features some photos which shows details on the track as well. Halfway down the article is a photo of a small section of track which has survived into our times and gives detailed information. The rails were made of two layers of hardwood timbers, each 2×5″, bolted on top of each other with overlap. Usually, there were wooden bolts and pins used, to avoid damage to the wheels. This results in a 4″ high and 6″ wide rail head. On some railroads, stripes of thin metal were added on top of the timber rails. Even turnouts were not uncommon with timber rails. Remember the D.H.Eastin&Co above, which operated several switchbacks on their railroad. Most timber turnouts wer21e built as stub-switches and often with switchable frogs. Unfortunately, I only found very few photos in books, which cannot be shared here.

For more details and information, I can recommend the book series “Railroading in the Carolina Sandhills”, which features many small tramroads like the “Yellow Pine Lbr.Co.”.

If you have further questions, feel free to ask, Maybe I can help.
Bye, Gerd

Hm… what might be inside?

Posted by Gerd on Monday, 22 February 2021 with 2 Comments

More comming soon, here on my blog.

Railroad making in December

Posted by Gerd on Saturday, 19 December 2020 with 3 Comments

Hi folks, I’m not very busy in logging railroad projects at the moment, but here and there, I find other projects to be done. Like this sweet one here. I plan a new small model railroad layout to be build next year. It will not be related to logging railroads as usual on my blog, […]

[Waldbahn Gazette] – Updates from the others

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 20 October 2020 with 5 Comments

Hello folks, the last issue of my „Waldbahn-Gazette“ was published a long time ago, so it’s time for some updates from other logging railroads and my friends. Waldbahn „Horský Dolina“ The Waldbahn „Horský Dolina“ was first featured in my blog in Feb 2019. Tobias has extended his railroad with a new branch, including two new […]

My new keyboard

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 2 June 2020 with 3 Comments

Are you in trouble and need good arguments for your honey, why garden railroad trains are useful and handy? Well, here’s a genius life-hack for you: I proudly present “Logging railroader’s keyboard”. Well, it’s finally a joke to fill a gap here in my blog. I’m working on some bigger projects recently and didn’t find […]

[Waldbahn Gazette] Logging Railroad “Horský Dolina”

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 26 February 2019 with 1 Comment

Hello, today, I’ve another issue from my “Waldbahn Gazette”, featuring the amazing “Waldbahn Horský Dolina”. I found this railroad some years ago in a German model train forum (Stummi-Modellbahnforum) and this layout was a great inspiration for me to build my own logging railroad in the garden. The layout and rolling stock is built by […]

[Waldbahn Gazette] More of my old N-scale WSLCo

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 2 October 2018 (Comments Closed)

Hello, I got some mails last week regarding some more information about my old N-scale rolling stock modelled after the famous West Side Lumber Co. Since the original website has gone, here are some photos of the model I build back in time and which all got sold away some years ago. Two make the […]

[Waldbahn Gazette] West Side Lumber Co. Heisler #2 in N-scale

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 25 September 2018 with 1 Comment

Hello logging railroaders, at the moment, I struggle with some issues on my garden railroad project. It seems that I have just to many different projects and ideas going on, and I’ve to sort them out in those I can realize on my railroad, and those I should try to stop before it’s to late. […]

The Waldbahner-Gazette #2 – „Waldbahn im Casanital“

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 12 June 2018 (Comments Closed)

Hello logging railroaders, at a model railroad show in Mannheim in January, I meet Daniel from Mannheim, which has watched my videos on Youtube about my Hon30 logging railroad modules. He was fascinated by the concept and design and told me that he’s going to build his own railroad soon. Now I’m happy to show […]

The Waldbahner Gazette #1 – “Galgenberg Waldbahn”

Posted by Gerd on Tuesday, 10 April 2018 with 3 Comments

Hello friends of logging and forestry railroading and welcome to a new category here on my Blog. The “Waldbahn Gazette” will show you reports from other model railroaders, which are modelling logging railroads or related stuff. I got this idea while I talked to some new model railroaders, which started to build their own layout, […]